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Jiehao Lim (talkcontribs)

John McTiernan(Movie director): He pleaded guilty to perjury and lying to an FBI investigator in regard to his hiring of the private investigator Anthony Pellicano in late 2000 to illegally wiretap the phone calls of two people, one of whom was Charles Roven a co-producer of his dystopian science-fiction action film remake Rollerball (2002).

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Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

Frank Hassle: He has been harassing various people, most notably Boogie (also on this list) and has been constantly coming to his house to make fun of him and has still been doing so despite the fact Boogie has warned him if he keeps it up he will get shot due to him not listening and trespassing on to private property. Even after Boogie called the cops, he still continues to do so.


While I don't support boogie anymore due to the proof of him being a terrible person that Batman129 has shown me, this is unacceptable, sure boogie is a terrible person in real life and has also blamed another person for his irresponsible action and tried to defend a friend of his that's completely in the wrong, but this is way too far.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

What he did was horrible but I looked him up and I don’t think he counts as a celebrity nor is he well known engough.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

What he did was horrible but I looked him up and I don’t think he counts as a celebrity nor is he well known engough.

Another Suggestion

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SmileFace24 (talkcontribs)

Zedd (DJ And EDM Producer): Wore an hat that said Dump Trump, Wanted to move out to America if trump voted president.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Simply hating Trump doesn’t count for the list, and Bryan Cranston wanted to move out of the US too yet he is on the opposite list.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I have to disagree. This suggestion isn't simply a criticism, it is a tasteless and obnoxious act and the intention of going away if a certain politician is elected surely is an exagerrated reaction. Similar entries can be found in the page because we rightly judged the suggestions to be valid, as is this one, so I added it.

Bryan Cranston will remain on Celebsmarts because he said a very intelligent thing to make up for that.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

I can understand your point with the latter but I really don’t think the former is strong enough. None no less I respect your opinion.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Thanks. To me saying "Dump Trump" is the same as saying "Fuck Clinton", it is right that both actions are listed on this page.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

I probably would've at least worn an "IMAG" (Immigrants Make America Great) hat instead. That said, when I make it big, I won't wear any political gear in public.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Yeah, that's the best thing to do.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Excuse me Trevor, I thought we agreed on having the Dump Trump reason on the page. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well, we do have other entries where celebrities insulted politicians, there is Justin Bieber saying "Fuck Bill Clinton" and Ted Nugent calling Obama a subhuman mongrel, we can't treat Trump differently, it is not right.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

That was before you made the message. I put that there now.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Very well then.

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

Ron Perlman calling the republican protestors the "KKK" party is why I stopped liking him.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Understandable. Also, I'd avoid referencing the Ku Klux Klan when criticizing rightist people, it has been founded by a part of CSA military who surely weren't politically right-oriented; they instead belonged to the Democratic party, their party had no involvement in the creation of that secret society tough but they still were leftist people.

Saying that the movement now belongs to the extreme right is a biased statement, it implies that racism and anti-semitism only belong to the extreme right. This just shows that many people don't know History and talk without knowing stuff.

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

At least Duncan Trussell doesn't flat out call people "satanic" just for believing in magic.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Those type of accusation towards people who believe in magic are quite funny to me, they sound almost medieval. I think they are essentially harmless though, I am sure no one will suffer for this.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Expect that Justin Bieber pissed on a mop bucket while doing it and the word “mongrel” is actually a derogatory slur towards people with mixed Heritage (Obama is half-Kenyan in case you are wondering).

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Are you trying to convince me that saying "dump this guy" is not an insult? Also, are you suggesting we should only put racially derogatory slurs in the list? One other thing: do you think that Bieber's "Fuck Clinton" couldn't be in the list if he just said that without urinating in the bucket? It doesn't make much sense to me.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Insults towards politicians should not count in general unless they go too far IMO. And to answer your questions:

1: No. I’m just saying that derogatory slurs are a example of insults that go too far.

2: Yes. If he just said “Fuck Clinton” without urinating in the bucket (or anything else stupid) then I don’t that should go on the list.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

The concept of insults going too far is subjective.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

This suggestion reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize Trump, but you could freely criticize Hillary Clinton. Thank God those days are over.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

There was even one guy on the list that was here just because he supported Hillary Clinton.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

What was his name?

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Rashad Moore

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

By that logic, The Rock would have gone here for endorsing Biden, himself extremely controversial.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

I’m gald this page isn’t run by Complete Bullshit when you recall hid remarks about Billie Eilish.

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

I remember someone suggesting Paul McCartney all because he indirectly referred to Trump as a "Mad Captain" in one of his songs.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

One of Matt Damon’s reasons for being on here was just because he didn’t support Trump’s wall.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Anyways here is a removal suggestion

Eric Andre (164): Since Trevor removed some “Supporting Fidel Castro” suggestions, I think it’s safe to say that Eric’s reason isn’t strong enough. I also took the whole “comparing Donald Trump to Fidel Castro” thing out of context now that I think about it. He just posted a picture of Fidel Castro wearing a hat that said “Make Cuba Great Again” which i think was most likely a joke about how some members of the right criticize Castro for his actions yet praise Trump despite his actions and was not meant to be a direct comparison between the two.

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

I knew he had to have been joking around, I just can't see him getting serious regarding politics at all.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Anthony Kiedis (lead vocalist of Red Hot Chilli Peppers): In his autobiography Scar Tissue he confessed to knowingly having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old girl while he was 23 at the time.

geminioffical (TikTok star): Has tried to persuade 15 year old girls to have sex with him. When he was called out for it he made a “apology” video where he just gaslighted and victimized himself.

James Charles (makeup YouTuber and current spokesperson for CoverGirl): Complained over not having a pink drink at Starbucks. When he was accused of his sweater plagiarizing Hila Klein’s similar brand of sweater, he responded by saying that he did in fact plagiarized the sweater by tried to downplay the situation by saying “we don’t relay have the same fanbase or demographic or anything so it’s ok.”


Removal suggestion:

Hasan Piker (204): He regretted his remarks towards 9/11. This was requested by Jessnator2 almost a year ago but went unnoticed.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

I read the link and I don't think we should remove it, his apology is pretty clumsy. He said “I didn’t say Americans deserved 9/11 — I said America deserves 9/11,” that's not even a real apology.

The hell was wrong with me?

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Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

Why did I defend Boogie, he truly is a dick who likes to play with people's heart strings with all those "Oh I am super sad cause meanies are after me and I whatever", I even noticed on his streams he acted like a complete jackass at imes, I guess his Francis character wasn't fake after all. Somebody please delete my Amazing Youtubers wiki page on him, I really do regret making that shit.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

I saw your other post, is everything allright now?

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

I told my aunt about Matthew Short.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

You made the right thing.

About boogie

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Summary by Snesboy12

Actually, no you guys are right, fuck boogie.

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

I think he might've not of known about the proof of Michael being abusive and he might've been in a bad mood during that car crash.

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

There is no defending or excusing what he did.

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

Yeah but it does seem like he is trying to improve himself in recent times.

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

Also can you remove Vail from the Celebsmarts page on BTSW, as just because he made a video praising The Amazing World of Gumball's approach to Tumblr doesn't make him a celebsmart, as anyone can do that, not to mention he can't handle criticism.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

I can understand the first pointer but that doesn’t change the fact that he caused a car crash and blamed it on someone else. Even if you ignore those two things he is still not a good person as shown here [https://youtu.be/Ar7rupanmVU]

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

I edited this comment because i regret making it.

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

Same with this one.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Excuse me but why are getting angry with us? We are not saying that in the slightest. We are just saying that neither Vail nor Boogie have strong enough reasons to get removed from their lists.

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I'm just tired of this, my freaking life is a lie, it seems like almost everything I do is wrong, every person I support always ends up screwing up in some way, I just can't take it anymore.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

I am very sorry for troubles.

Snesboy12 (talkcontribs)

I think I'm going to rest for the night, Michael (KidBehindACamera) & Boogie seemed like such nice people, but I guess not, 1 abused his nephews and the other blamed someone else for their irresponsibly, I hope they improve soon. I wish the best of luck for you.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Thank you and i wish you the best of luck too.

BeatDrop (talkcontribs)

Soulja Boy (rapper): Has sent death threats to people (i.e. Chief Keef). Sold SouljaGame consoles which were rebranded consoles from AliExpress with a higher price than the original consoles and claimed what he was doing was legal and he wouldn't get in trouble for it. Made homophobic tweets against people questioning the legitimacy of the consoles.

Lil Pump (rapper): Fired his gun out a car window while saying "ESSKEETIT!" Tweeted about wanting to have sex with Miranda Cosgrove, the actress of iCarly when she was 24 and he was 16. Once poured some Sour Patch Kids Cereal into a cereal bowl & poured lean into it, and drank it.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Can you elaborate on these "homophobic" tweets he sent to people questioning his consoles?

NeptunePerson2018 (talkcontribs)

The Harry Potter books DID deal with racism, did you not even read them?????? The whole Muggles vs. pure-bloods thing was an analogy to racism. You need to remove that reason and add that JK Rowling is a huge transphobe. I suggested to add that to her pointer a year ago, but it wasn't added.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/09/14/jk-rowlings-new-book-about-a-cross-dressing-serial-killer-draws-outrage/?_sm_byp=iVV8JPZNpkL583j6#1895b30f32d0

There is literally no evidence of a man dressing up as a woman to kill people, this is spreading hate against transgender people. It's hypocritical of her to be a transphobe when the Harry Potter books were about acceptance and tolerance. She also goes by a male pen name, Robert Galbraith, to sell more books, so she can't slam trans people for wanting to change their name when she does it herself.

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

I've made the changes to her example. There's no need for that tone at the beginning though, mistakes happen.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Indeed, I agree with you DeciduousWater. Also yeah, I didn't read them. I bought the first four books when they were published but never really read them as I stopped after a few pages of the first book, for some reason I now can't remember. But I didn't write that entry either.

The user who wrote that part must not have tought the books dealt with racism. If Rowling didn't expand the topic further than how it was depicted in those few pages I read, than it was pretty subtle anyway, without her books proposing a true allegory of real world racism.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Excuse me, did Rowling exactly presented her serial killer as transgender or did he just wrote that he dresses up as a woman? Because they aren't exactly the same thing and we now know that internet people are quick to judge and condemn.

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

Based on the article, the killer dresses as a woman, but is not trans. It seems like the people criticizing her are getting the two mixed up.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Which isn't really a surprise. Criticizing stuff without knowing the whole picture or even the whole world and the people is perhaps the only thing militant internet groups of any kind have in common.

Of course I am not talking about you Neptune, you probably just heard this from someone who looked reliable but know that very few sources can be considered trustworthy nowadays and it is very useful to keep a skeptic mind.

Crs3011 (talkcontribs)

This is shocking since J.K. Rowling is a master at making really good stories that won't draw outrage.

Xian Pu (talkcontribs)

Would she have gotten away with THAT revelation about Dumbledore nowadays, though? I don't think she would.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Why not?

LA2002 (talkcontribs)

And to think, J.K. Rowling is a good author, but man, her hatred towards transgender people is an unforgivable transgression.

JinHazama (talkcontribs)

I remember who is Poison (a Street Fighter character).

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Jorobe (TikTok star): A lot of his TikToks contain many SJW themes such as shaming heterosexual men who fight back against sexual assault from a homosexual man and bashing a woman for encouraging children to have a healthy diet.

Vaush (YouTuber): Believes pedophiles shouldn’t be held accountable for child pornography possession and that Candace Owens is the only black female Republican.

upgrades:

No Bullshit (395): Bashed Billie Eilish for supporting Joe Biden during his 2020 presidential run.

TheQuatering (510): Claimed that he is against people milking Chadwick Boseman’s death for profit yet has hypocritically done that himself by making a video claiming “Black Panther will be replaced by a woman.”

removal

David Harbour (136): I don’t that is a strong enough reason for being on the list since it was just some stupid marketing stunt.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

Tell Complete Bullshit that people should support whoever they want. Unless of course they're complete monsters.

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

While at it, you should also tell him to stop loving Alabama so much.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

I hope Complete Bullshit doesn’t have a sister if you catch my drift.

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

Why is the channel called "No Bullshit" when it's obvious it is complete bullshit?

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

I only added David Harbour because I had a hate boner over him.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

It’s fine. Just make sure don’t overreact in the future.

LA2002 (talkcontribs)

And his reason is just not strong enough.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

^

NeptunePerson2018 (talkcontribs)

man. I'm not a fan of Joe Biden but let Billie make her own decisions bruh (talking to Complete And Utter Bullshit)

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

Fuck Complete Bullshit. All my homies Complete No Bullshit.

Gabgaberox (talkcontribs)

Upgrade suggestion:

Mat Brunet (AniMat): Has his own page on Rotten Websites Wiki.

Thirty-fourth set of suggestions

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Backman (talkcontribs)

-Owen Benjamin: Has frequently expressed alt-right views. For example, he has advocated for the return of slavery to enslave Shaun King and said in one YouTube livestream "Really what he was trying to do was clean Germany, clean it of the parasites, of the fleas. He did not hate Jews. He hated filth and he was trying to clean up" (when talking about Adolf Hitler), "Jews run our entire media, all of Hollywood, all of pornography", and "Nobody wants any of it and it's all Jews!" while also being a Holocaust denier, showing off antisemitism. Ironically one of his comedy influences, Adam Sandler, has stated his family is Jewish.

-Rolf Harris: Committed twelve counts of indecent assault on four teenage female victims during the 1970s and 1980s which eventually led to him being jailed for five years and nine months in prison in July 2014 and being stripped of many of the honours he had been awarded during his career.

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

These suggestions weren’t added the first time

Adam Calhoun (social media personality and singer): Called the 2019 Sandy Hook Promise PSA “anti gun propaganda” despite the fact that the PSA had nothing to do with promoting gun control. Claims to support freedom of speech and against people getting offended by everything but as a hypocrite, he said that the opinions of those who are pro choice “don’t fucking matter” and ranted on James Charles just for wearing makeup and even went as far as to mock those who aren’t bothered by James Charles wearing makeup.

Seawater514’s suggestion

Martha Plimpton: Extremely pro-abortion, stated she had her first abortion in Seattle and acted proud for doing so.

Jessenator2 (talkcontribs)

Rick Wiles (TruNews founder and pastor of Flowing Streams Church): His rhetoric is [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rick-wiles-trump-impeachment/ antisemitic], [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=akZgIhGdjHE Islamophobic], [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gay-people-hurricane-harvey-blame-christian-leaders-texas-flooding-homosexuals-lgbt-a7933026.html homophobic] and [https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/trump-takes-question-from-racist-conspiracy-mongering-florida-website-trunews-10772931 racist]. Has called the [https://www.newsweek.com/christian-pastor-claims-coronavirus-gods-death-angel-blames-parents-transgendering-little-1484473 Coronavirus “God’s death angel”, blaming parents “transgendering young children.”]

Jesse Lee Peterson (pastor and host of The Jesse Lee Peterson Show): Has claimed that [https://www.ibtimes.com/rev-jesse-lee-peterson-sexist-sermon-greatest-mistake-america-made-was-allowing-women-vote-video women getting the right to vote was one of the biggest mistakes America made]. Despite being black, he stated that [https://www.jesseleepeterson.com/press-article/blacks-are-being-used-bring-destruction most black people on Earth are destroying everything sacred] and has [https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/jesse-lee-peterson-praises-neo-nazi-podcasters/ praised Neo-Nazi podcasters].

Batman129 (talkcontribs)

I know that this is a old Suggestion and Jesse Lee peterson isn’t on the list anymore but I want to make this joke:

It looks like you weren’t so amazin after all Jesse

DeciduousWater534 (talkcontribs)

Blake Lively (actress/model): Compared people who are republicans to "drug addicts who need help".

Brandon Marshall (NFL player): Is one of the NFL players who protests the national anthem by kneeling.

Ben Affleck: As shown in his interviews with Sam Harris, he gets easily offended and labels anyone as "racist" if they have different political views than his.