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A mere "D'oh!" will not suffice...
Genre: Animated sitcom
Running Time: 21-24 minutes
Country: United States
Release Date: September 26, 1999 - May 21, 2000 (Season 11)
November 7, 2004 - May 12, 2019 (Seasons 16-30)
Network(s): Fox (US broadcast)
FXX (US syndication)
Network Ten (1991-2011; Australia)
Eleven (2011-17; Australia)
7mate (2018-present; Australia)
Sky One (1989-2021; UK broadcast)
Sky Showcase (2021-present; UK broadcast)
BBC One (1996-97; UK syndication)
BBC Two (1997-2004; UK syndication)
Channel 4 (2004-present; UK syndication)
Created by: Matt Groening
Distributed by: 20th Television (1989-2020)
Disney–ABC Domestic Television (2020–present)
Starring: Dan Castellaneta
Julie Kavner
Nancy Cartwright
Yeardley Smith
Hank Azaria
Harry Shearer
Seasons: 33
Episodes: 20 (Season 19)
21 (Seasons 16, 20, 29)
22 (Seasons 11, 17-18, 22-28)
23 (Seasons 21, 30)


"''Bart: Dad, how come they're taking The Cosby Show off the air?
Homer: Because Mr. (Bill) Cosby wanted to stop before the quality suffered.
Bart: Quality, schmality! If I had a TV show, I'd run that sucker into the ground!
Homer: Amen, boy. Amen!''"
Homer and Bart Simpson, from an April 30, 1992 rerun of the episode "Three Men and a Comic Book"

The Simpsons is an American animated sitcom created by cartoonist Matt Groening. During the first 10 seasons, the show was considered one of the greatest TV shows of all-time.

However, ever since Season 9's "The Principal and the Pauper", the show has gone downhill and still hasn't fully recovered to this day. While Seasons 1-10 (1989-1999) garnered highly positive reception, whereas Seasons 12-15 (1999-2004) and 31 onwards (2019-present) have garnered mixed-to-positive reception, Seasons 11 and 16-30 (2004-2019) have garnered a mixed reception by critics and fans. It has been bad for so long to the point where the flanderization trope is named after a Simpsons character (in this case, Ned Flanders).

Bad Qualities

  1. Quantity Over Quality: The main problem is that the series has been going on for way, way too long (it started all the way back in 1989), as the show now has 33 seasons and 700+ episodes and counting. While it sounds like a cool idea on paper, the show will often jump the shark because of this.
    • It could have ended somewhere in the 2000s due to its decline, probably 2007 when The Simpsons Movie was released, but it instead became the cash cow for the Fox network.
    • There are enough episodes to the point where Wikipedia needed to have two episode lists.
    • While all the seasons are available to watch on Disney+ (excluding Season 33), most of the seasons are still not released on DVD yet, as only the first 20 seasons have a DVD release and for whatever reason, FOX/Disney opted not to release the rest of the seasons on DVD/Blu-ray.
      • Not to mention, there was a gap between the releases of 17th and 18th season sets starting in 2014, as FOX wanted to focus more on digital distribution. It wasn't until July 22, 2017 when the 18th season set was announced due to a fan protest.
    • It doesn't help the fact that the 23rd and 30th seasons sped up the decline of the show with there being more bad episodes in those seasons than in most of the other modern seasons of the show, with Season 23 having some of the worst episodes of the entire series like "Lisa Goes Gaga" and Season 30 having SJW episodes like "Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy".
  2. While there are still great or even decent episodes during these seasons, these seasons mostly have quite a lot of bad episodes, to the point where most of these episodes once cluttered the wiki with their individual pages before they were all removed and sub-sequentially banned on this wiki and were later relocated to the Horrible TV Show Episodes Wiki, until they were restored on the wiki after they were both merged. Some of the most infamous examples include:
  3. Some of the characters have gotten flanderized:
    • Homer has gone from a dimwitted, yet well-meaning father to a moronic idiot who sometimes acts like a selfish, uncaring jerk towards his family and friends.
    • Marge has gone from a strict, yet well-meaning mother to a stereotypical nagging wife who worries too much about everything and is extremely boring and un-impulsive by nature, getting hyped up by household chores and monotonous hobbies. In HD seasons, she's also become more of a jerk, particularly towards Homer.
    • Bart has gone from a typical problems child into a total sociopath who doesn't care if anyone gets hurt by his "pranks".
    • Lisa has gone from a voice-of-reason-type character to a complete know-it-all Mary Sue and a political soapbox. Some of the episodes focusing on her show her at her absolute worst like in "On a Clear Day, I Can't See My Sister" and "Bart vs. Itchy & Scratchy".
    • Ned Flanders has gone from a religious man who enjoys other things as well to a fundamentalist who will lash out at anyone who doesn't support it. In fact, he's actually the namesake for the flanderization trope.
    • Otto Mann has gone from a cool and laid-back bus driver to a dangerous low-life and a drug addict.
    • Patty and Selma Bouvier went from just making hilariously mean jokes about Homer to being full-on sociopaths who wanted to see Homer suffer, even going as far as to urge him to jump off a bridge in "Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind" and kidnapping him on the day he and Marge were going to renew their wedding vows in "Wedding for Disaster". Later seasons tone this down, though.
  4. Similar to modern Family Guy, it tends to overuse pop-culture references, celebrity parodies/cameos, and product placement.
  5. In 2018, Al Jean (the showrunner until 2021) actually became so obsessed with political correctness and his management of the show became so horrible to the point he acted like a complete scumbag who wanted to make the show "PC".
    • He was the one who was very responsible for removing Apu from The Simpsons, and pretty shunting him into the background of most modern episodes, after watching the infamous documentary involving the controversy from Hari Kondabolu that Apu is a "racist stereotype" on October 27, 2018. But Apu was actually far from acting as a racist stereotype, especially since the documentary Jean watched was just about how Apu can be offensive to some people. Yes he is given the Indian nationality, but Apu is a depiction of his own culture in a good way.
      • After that, Azaria went on to apologize for voicing Apu instead of standing up for himself against Al Jean. That can really show you what a total wimp Hank Azaria is, and it's no wonder why Azaria was made fun of and ridiculed by John Cleese on Twitter.
      • What is worse is that Al Jean did nothing to respond to the criticism opposing the removal of a popular character, nor did he even apologize for allowing this to happen. Which is ironic because in Season 29, there was one scene from an episode of the twenty ninth season that made fun of the controversy of Apu.
    • Another example of him being a politically correct scumbag is that he accused Michael Jackson of using "Stark Raving Dad" (an episode he ironically wrote, keep in mind) to groom little boys for the sake of sexual abuse on March 6, 2019.[1] Of course, this right here does not only show he is also one of Michael Jackson's stupid accusers so he can guilt trip the dead guy, but also one of his slanderers, too.
      • Even worse, he even made a completely terrible decision to remove the episode from circulation on American television in the rise of Leaving Neverland and the false sexual allegations on Michael Jackson being brought back up once again thanks to the notorious Wade Robson and James Safechuck.
      • Not to mention, he really enjoys playing the innocent on people who have done no wrong to deserve anything bad happening to them judging by this action.
    • Finally, in June 2020, he forced all the Caucasian actors of the show to step down the roles for non-white characters in the wake of the George Floyd protests, including Hank Azaria, let alone pander to political correctness and the obsessively left wing as possible. While most of the newer actors for the non-white characters are decent choices, Alex Desert as Carl is a rather off-putting choice since Carl has a Brooklyn accent. Even Kevin Michael Richardson does a poor choice voicing Dr Hibbert since it comes across as Mr Gus making a bad voice impression of Dr Hibbert.
  6. Some episodes are too similar to episodes from previous seasons. Other episodes tend to copy and paste some ideas/concepts from previous seasons/other programs (unless it's done right); one blatant example of the latter comes from Season 30's "Bart vs. Itchy & Scratchy", where the episode basically feels like a rehash of the Season 2 episode "Itchy & Scratchy & Marge".
  7. While the animation has noticeably improved, it has gotten more restricted since Season 20b, due to it transiting to flash, though it started to get a little looser by Season 31, when the animation transitioned to Toon-Boom.
  8. Some episodes are extremely preachy and even stray into pro-SJW territory, especially episodes centering around Lisa.
  9. While there are still a handful of good jokes, there are some stale and repetitive jokes. Some of them are just tasteless (like the 9/11 joke in "Moonshine River"), some are flat-out disturbing (like Chief Wiggum goading Bart into jumping off a water tower in "The Boys of Bummer"), and some aren't even really jokes at all (like whenever a meme or something out of pop culture is referenced, it is instead just simply shown without it be satirized or done as a joke being made about it).
  10. Season 11 tends to rely on outlandish storylines, which can get repetitive a lot. Episodes used in this pattern include "Saddlesore Galactica" and "Kill the Alligator and Run".
  11. Some episodes are either flat-out underwhelming, mediocre at best or hard to watch due to the plot being either very confusing, mean-spirited or anti-climactic.
  12. These seasons try too hard to stay relevant sometimes (mostly the post movie era), by constantly doing things in a desperate attempt to try and get attention, like killing off Rabbi Krustofski or having Homer and Marge undergo a fake divorce, which is proof that the show is better being what it is than trying to stay relevant like that.
  13. Several of the recurring characters are pretty annoying and unlikable, especially Helen Lovejoy, the Rich Texan, Judge Constance Harm, Patty Bouvier, Artie Ziff and Agnes Skinner.
  14. A few of the endings are either rushed, or confusing, like the ending to "Lisa Goes Gaga".
  15. Just like South Park, there are some episodes that attack and make jabs at SJW propaganda like before, which isn't a bad concept most of the time. However, unlike South Park, The Simpsons doesn't do a good job of it most of the time. There are some good jabs at SJW propaganda here and there, but most of the time, it's not executed well. However, one episode ("Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy") hypocritically panders to the SJW crowd for the worst reasons imaginable, giving the series a bad reputation in the process.
  16. Although the show is still great at making songs, there are some of the songs are cringeworthy or hard to listen for some people because of how bad they are or are used so poorly, like the song "Making a Food Blog" from "The Food Wife".
  17. The voice acting, while still remaining good, can get annoying from some of the characters sometimes, especially Marge and Ned Flanders.
    • Since around Season 24, Julie Kavner (Marge's voice actress) has started sounding tired and worn-out, possibly due to Kavner's aging.
  18. Some of the jokes or jabs try way too hard to be "hip" and "cool", and sometimes can only backfire and makes some of the post-movie era episodes seem outdated.
    • "How the Test Was Won" has Principal Skinner make a threat that references the famous "Got any grapes?" line from "The Duck Song". While it does fit the time zone of 2009 (the episode's original airdate), nowadays, it seems rather painful after the song became irrelevant in 2012.
    • Season 25 also had an episode simply titled "YOLO", which aired in November 2013, long after "YOLO" stopped being relevant.
      • In the same season, Homer sings about "swag" of all things.
    • They had an entire episode dedicated to Pokémon Go released in the UK on April 30, 2017 after the game had stopped being relevant. Of course, this can lead to one question: Was the Pokémon Go episode produced and written in 2016?
    • The Season 30 episode "I'm Just a Girl Who Can't Say D'oh" had a scene where Bart flossed.
    • The Season 29 finale episode "Flanders' Ladder" opened with Bart tricking Lisa into playing the Scary Maze Game and saying "epic sister fail!" afterwards. Keep in mind that the episode aired in May 20, 2018 in the US.
  19. In 2019, they did this video called "West Wing Story", which was an example of making a very bad attempt at mocking Donald Trump and is obviously another attempt to stay relevant.
  20. Some of the episodes have plot holes and continuity errors that retcon previous seasons such as, for example, "That '90s Show", where it's revealed that Homer and Marge were young back in the 1990s, were dating and didn't have kids back then, despite the fact that they were young and were dating in the 1970s, got married in the '80s, and Bart and Lisa were born in the '80s, as well as the fact that this show came out before the '90s even began. All in an attempt to justify why they didn’t age in the current seasons as an example.
  21. "Treehouse of Horror XXII" is the weakest of the Treehouse of Horror episodes. Though there are some good and bad jokes, it's one of the more mediocre three-segment episodes of the series due to the first segment relying solely on toilet humor (for context, Homer was paralyzed and could only communicate by farting) and the third segment relying on dated pop-culture references to movies like Avatar (the episode was released two years after the movie stopped being relevant).
  22. The series is no longer dubbed in Japanese since Season 15 aired in Japan in 2008. The movie was lucky to be dubbed, as well as The Simpsons' short films, but the rest of the series - both pre-movie and post movie seasons - are left broadcasting with the original English version with Japanese subtitles added whenever the characters are speaking. Even when they aren't, the subtitles are added in anyway, which is really sad because The Simpsons was broadcast in Japan since the '90s, this could be due to lack of recognition from the Japanese market.
  23. Most of the Latin Spanish dubbing cast went on strike after Season 15 and were replaced. Most notably, Marina Huerta reprised her role as Bart after she quit the series in 1999 due to salary disputes; she was also cast as Marge, along with Jorge Ornelas as Moe. The replacement voice actors have not managed to live up to the original cast, mainly due to the local jokes, expressions and words being eliminated.
    • Beginning in Season 32, many of the classic voice actors returned, including Humberto Velez (Homer), who took over as the show's dubbing director.
  24. Starting in the second half of Season 20, the series received a new intro due to the switch to HD. While decent, it really isn't as good as the intros from Season 1 and Seasons 2-20a because of the animation (for example, rather than Marge looking concerned before giving a sigh of relief upon seeing Maggie in the shopping bag, the new intro simply has her turn her head without much emotion) and cramming in too many gags (such as Homer being sent flying through the garage door by Marge's car rather than him running away from it). Some sequences (such as the aforementioned shopping scene) were animated using Adobe Flash, explaining the stiff animation.
  25. The firing of composer Alf Clausen in 2017 and his replacement with Hans Zimmer and Bleeding Fingers Music robbed the music of its beautiful character.

Good Qualities

  1. The soundtrack was still great until composer Alf Clausen was fired in 2017. Even then, the new soundtrack by Hans Zimmer and Bleeding Fingers Music is still pretty decent.
  2. There are a handful of good, decent and even great episodes, such as:
    • "Beyond Blunderdome" (which started this era on a high note)
    • "Brother's Little Helper"
    • "Grift of the Magi" (depending on your view)
    • "Missionary: Impossible" (despite the inconclusive ending)
    • "Pygmoelian"
    • "Behind the Laughter"
    • The "Treehouse of Horror" episodes (except Treehouse of Horror XXII)
    • "All's Fair in Oven War"
    • "Sleeping with the Enemy"
    • "Pranksta Rap"
    • "Future-Drama"
    • "A Star is Torn"
    • "Home Away from Homer"
    • "The Seemingly Never-Ending Story"
    • "Girls Just Want to Have Sums"
    • "The Haw-Hawed Couple"
    • "Springfield Up"
    • "Marge Gamer"
    • "24 Minutes"
    • "You Kent Always Say What You Want"
    • "Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind"
    • "The Debarted" (depending on your view)
    • "Any Given Sundance"
    • "Mona Leaves-a"
    • "Sex, Pies and Idiot Scrapes"
    • "Dangerous Curves"
    • "Homer and Lisa Exchange Cross Words"
    • "Eeny Teeny Maya Moe"
    • "Father Knows Worst"
    • "O Brother, Where Bart Thou?"
    • "Once Upon a Time in Springfield"
    • "American History X-cellent"
    • "The Squirt and the Whale"
    • "The Bob Next Door"
    • "Homer Scissorhands"
    • "Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts"
    • "The Book Job"
    • "Holidays of Future Passed"
    • "How I Wet Your Mother" (depending on your view)
    • "The Day the Earth Stood Cool"
    • "The Saga of Carl"
    • "Steal This Episode"
    • "Brick Like Me"
    • "Simpsorama"
    • "Puffless"
    • "Halloween of Horror"
    • "Barthood"
    • "The Marge-ian Chronicles"
    • "Fland Canyon"
    • "Gone Boy"
    • "Flanders' Ladder" (depending on your view)
    • "Baby, You Can't Drive My Car"
    • "'Tis the 30th Season"
    • "Woo-hoo Dunnit?"
  3. These seasons add a lot of new ideas that haven't been done before, such as Flanders and Homer becoming bounty hunters in "Sex, Pies and Idiot Scrapes".
  4. There are still some funny gags, jokes and/or lines. Some of them include Ralph Wiggum's "Ralphisms" in various episodes, Marge krumping in "Little Orphan Millie", Moleman's line "No-one's gay for Moleman" in Future-Drama, Abraham Simpsons' line "You come to me for help rememberin'? That's like asking your horse to do your taxes... which I did in 1998" in Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind, Marge's line "What the Hello Kitty?" in Homer's Paternity Coot, the "Family Guy World" joke in 'Tis the 30th Season and Bart prank-calling Moe in various episodes.
  5. Some of the characters are still memorable and likable, such as:
    • Barney Gumble (despite the fact that he appears less and less since the switch to HD)
    • Moe Szyslak (who is still quite memorable)
    • Krusty the Clown
    • Lenny Leonard
    • Carl Carlson
    • Groundskeeper Willie (who still gets memorable lines of dialogue)
    • Superintendent Chalmers
    • Abraham Simpson II
    • Mr. Burns
    • Homer Simpson (despite his flanderization, depending on your view)
    • Bart Simpson (despite his flanderization, depending on your view)
    • Waylon Smithers
    • Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
    • Professor Frink
    • Dr. Hibbert
    • Hans Moleman
    • Maggie Simpson
    • Ralph Wiggum
    • Kent Brockman
    • Reverend Timothy Lovejoy
    • Üter Zörker
  6. The animation has noticeably improved, especially since Season 20b with the transition to HD (despite it also transitioning to Flash as said in BQ #7).
  7. The new HD intro from Season 20b onwards includes references to earlier seasons and a new billboard gag, along with some recurring gags such as Lisa's instrument (examples include the violin, trumpet, tuba, even vocalizing in one episode).
  8. The show is still good at making songs of their own.
  9. Even if the pop-culture references and product placements tend to get overused in some cases, at least they are still fun to point out rather than getting jammed down people's throats.
  10. The couch gags are still fun, creative and hilarious to watch, such as the "Powers of Ten" couch gag, the "La-Z Rider" couch gag, the "Evolution of Homer" couch gag, as well as the crossover couch gag with Rick and Morty. Some couch gags are even made by guest animators such as Banksy, Bill Plympton and Don Hertzfeldt.
  11. Most of the voice cast has not changed, and the acting is mostly still good.
  12. The writing is still decent, depending on the episode.
  13. It still pays tribute to deceased cast members, crew members and past guest stars.
  14. There are still good morals from the show.
  15. Despite the change of voices in the Latin American dubbing, it could be said that it is an improvement compared to the previous dubbing, which was full of errors and inconsistencies when translating and establishing fixed voices in the characters
    • For example, the character of Milhouse's mother was called "Luann Van Houten" during the first season as in English, but during Seasons 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 she was inexplicably called "Inocencia Donoso". In addition to that, during those specific seasons, they used both names to refer to Milhouse's mother, which shows a serious error in the translation. Since season 10 they stopped using the name "Inocencia Donoso".
    • Another good example of the serious inconsistency that the old dubbing had would be that characters like Seymour Skinner, Ned Flanders, Professor Frink, Grandpa Simpson and Superintendent Chalmers, among others, unjustifiably changed their voices in each season, mainly in Seasons 12, 13, 14 and 15, even though the characters had fixed voices, not to mention that it was over-the-top as various characters (most notably Ned Flanders, Professor Frink and Grandpa Simpson) had their voices changed up to 6 six times in a single season.
    • At the same time, different Latino fans of The Simpsons no longer see changing the voice actors as a problem.
    • Víctor Manuel Espinoza, though often regarded as inferior to Humberto Velez, did a decent job voicing Homer Simpson.
  16. Despite the flanderization, some of the recurring and main characters can still act like their older selves in some episodes.
  17. Al Jean was still a nice person and was aware of the series' decline (just like Matt Groening) before becoming obsessed with political correctness in 2018.
    • There is good news though. As of season 33, he will finally semi-retire showrunning The Simpsons, as he will only showrun 4 episodes of the season, which will help improve the series a lot.[2] Therefore, The Simpsons would hopefully have a slightly better future with a new showrunner.
  18. Seasons 31 and 32 are improvements over these seasons, as they have less bad episodes along with the animation quality starting to get a little looser more and more. In addition, the characters are starting to revert back to their original personalities, which they either last had in season 15 or still had since the show began.
    • Also, seasons 16, 20 and 25 aren't as bad as the rest of these seasons here, as season 16 was okay for its first 10 episodes. It wasn't until "On a Clear Day, I Can't See My Sister" premiered when the rot kicked in. Seasons 20 and 25 have more good episodes compared to the others, but still isn't enough for them to be considered good.
  19. Overall, this show deserves some credit for its ongoing long run. It broke the record of being the longest running cartoon on American television, got its very own movie in 2007 (as stated earlier) and has tried to keep up to modern day events (even if it doesn't end up working) such as characters having smartphones and tablets while the episode does not take place in the past, and has some references work due to some of them being shown, around, or relevant the same year (especially for satirical or comedic purposes).
    • Speaking of which, the movie itself would have been a great way to end the series if Fox cancelled it after season 18, as mentioned in BQ #1.

Reception

While the first ten seasons were positively received and Seasons 12-15 and 31-present received mixed-to-positive reception, Seasons 11 and 16-30 received very mixed reception from critics and fans alike. Whilst it's speculated by fans that the show went downhill since Season 9 because of the infamous episode "The Principal and the Pauper", and others fans speculate that Seasons 9 and 10 are still apart of the "Golden Age" and that series actually went downhill after Season 11, most fans agree that Seasons 11 and 16 were when the show hit a massive decline before improving itself in Season 31.

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Trivia

  • Voice actor Harry Shearer stated in interviews that he was well aware of the show's decline and admitted that he only stayed because of the paycheck.
  • Russi Taylor, voice actress of Martin, Terri and Sherri, died from colorectal cancer on July 26, 2019. Grey DeLisle Griffin stated that she will be the new voice actress of Martin, Terri and Sherri starting in Season 31.
  • Season 11 is the only season on this page to use traditional cel animation. Seasons 16-19 used digital ink-and-paint, while the rest of the seasons used flash.

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