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# The main problem is that the series has been going on for '''way''' too long (it started in '''1989'''), as the show now has '''32 seasons and over 692 episodes and counting'''. While it sounds like a good idea on paper, the show will often [[Jumping the Shark|jump the shark]] because of this.
 
# The main problem is that the series has been going on for '''way''' too long (it started in '''1989'''), as the show now has '''32 seasons and over 692 episodes and counting'''. While it sounds like a good idea on paper, the show will often [[Jumping the Shark|jump the shark]] because of this.
#*There are so many episodes that Wikipedia needed to have two [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simpsons_episodes_(seasons_1-20) episode] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simpsons_episodes lists].
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#*There are enough episodes where Wikipedia needed to have two [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simpsons_episodes_(seasons_1-20) episode] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simpsons_episodes lists].
 
#*Not even all the seasons are released on DVD yet, as only the first 20 seasons have a DVD release and for whatever reason, FOX/Disney opted not to release the rest of the seasons on DVD/Blu-ray.
 
#*Not even all the seasons are released on DVD yet, as only the first 20 seasons have a DVD release and for whatever reason, FOX/Disney opted not to release the rest of the seasons on DVD/Blu-ray.
 
# Some of the characters have gotten {{Loathsome|Flanderization|flanderized|note=no}}.
 
# Some of the characters have gotten {{Loathsome|Flanderization|flanderized|note=no}}.

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The idea of a cartoon going on for 30+ years may sound cool on paper, but ends up being a terrible idea...
Genre: Animated Sitcom
Running Time: 21-24 Minutes
Country: United States
Release Date: December 17, 1989–present
Network(s): Fox
Created by: Matt Groening
Distributed by: 20th Television
Starring: Dan Castellaneta
Julie Kavner
Nancy Cartwright
Yeardley Smith
Hank Azaria
Harry Shearer
Seasons: 32
Episodes: 695+


The Simpsons is an American animated sitcom created by cartoonist Matt Groening. During the first 10 seasons, the show was considered one of the greatest TV shows of all-time. However, ever since Season 11 began, the show has been going downhill to this day and still hasn't recovered from Season 9's "The Principal and the Pauper". The first 10 seasons were given good reviews by critics and audiences, but all seasons afterward have been met with mixed-to-negative reception by critics and fans of the series. It has been bad for so long to the point where the flanderization trope is named after a Simpsons character (in this case, Ned Flanders), as well as the longest decline for any American animated series.

Bad Qualities

  1. The main problem is that the series has been going on for way too long (it started in 1989), as the show now has 32 seasons and over 692 episodes and counting. While it sounds like a good idea on paper, the show will often jump the shark because of this.
    • There are enough episodes where Wikipedia needed to have two episode lists.
    • Not even all the seasons are released on DVD yet, as only the first 20 seasons have a DVD release and for whatever reason, FOX/Disney opted not to release the rest of the seasons on DVD/Blu-ray.
  2. Some of the characters have gotten flanderized.
    • Homer has gone from a dimwitted, yet well-meaning father to a moronic idiot who sometimes acts like a selfish jerk.
    • Marge has gone from a strict, yet well-meaning mother to a stereotypical overprotective mother who worries too much about everything and is no fun at all.
    • Bart has gone from a mischievous prankster with a heart of gold to a mean-spirited, selfish, callous and malicious sociopath. Thankfully, he still gets his comeuppance for his antics sometimes.
    • Lisa has gone from a voice-of-reason-type character to a complete know-it-all Mary Sue.
    • Ned Flanders has gone from a religious man who enjoys other things as well to a religious fanatic who will lash out at anyone who doesn't support it. In fact, he's actually the namesake for the flanderization trope.
    • Otto Mann has gone from a cool and laid back bus driver to a dangerous low-life and a drug addict.
  3. Similar to modern Family Guy, it tends to overuse pop-culture references, celebrity parodies/cameos, and product placement.
  4. Some episodes rip-off episodes from previous seasons. Other episodes tend to copy and paste some jokes from previous seasons (unless it's done right).
  5. While the animation has noticeably improved, it has gotten more restricted since Season 20b (though Season 32 is a little looser). However, the lighting, textures, coloring and character designs are a step up from previous seasons.
  6. Some episodes are extremely preachy and even stray into pro-SJW territory, especially episodes centering around Lisa.
  7. While there are still a handful of good jokes, there are some stale and repetitive jokes. Some of them are just tasteless (like the 9/11 joke in "Moonshine River"), some are flat-out disturbing (like Marge pressuring Homer into having rough sex with her in "Strong Arms of the Ma" and Homer getting raped by a panda in "Homer vs. Dignity"), and some aren't even really jokes at all (like whenever a meme or something out of pop culture is referenced, it is instead just simply shown without it be satirized or a joke being made about it).
  8. Some episodes are either flat-out underwhelming, mediocre at best or are hard to watch, due to the plot being either very confusing or anti-climactic.
  9. These seasons try too hard to stay relevant, by constantly doing things in a desperate attempt to try and get attention, like killing off Rabbi Krustofski or having Homer and Marge undergo a fake divorce, which is proof that the show is better being what it is than trying to stay relevant.
  10. Several of the recurring characters are pretty annoying and unlikable, especially Helen Lovejoy, the Rich Texan, Gil Gunderson, the "Yeeeeeeeees!" Guy, Judge Constance Harm, Artie Ziff and Agnes Skinner.
  11. A few of the endings are either rushed or confusing, like the ending to "Lisa Goes Gaga".
  12. Just like South Park, there are some episodes that attack and make jabs at SJW propaganda like before, which isn't a bad concept most of the time. However, unlike South Park, The Simpsons doesn't do a good job of it most of the time. There are some good jabs at SJW propaganda here and there, but most of the time, it's not executed well. However, one episode ("Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy") hypocritically panders to the SJW crowd for the worst reasons imaginable, giving the series a bad reputation at it.
  13. Some of the songs are cringe-worthy or hard to listen for some people because of how bad they are or are used so poorly, like the song "Making a Food Blog" from "The Food Wife".
  14. The voice acting, while still good, can get annoying from some of the characters sometimes, especially Marge and Ned Flanders.
    • Since 2015, Julie Kavner (Marge's voice actress) has started sounding tired and worn-out, possibly due to Kavner aging.
  15. Some of the jokes try way too hard to be "hip" and "cool", but it only backfires and makes some of the post-movie era episodes seem outdated. A few great examples of this are when an episode literally stopped everything to have the entire family sing "Baby Shark", having an entire episode dedicated to Pokémon Go released a year after the game was relevant, and the episode "Flanders' Ladder" opening with Bart tricking Lisa into playing the Scary Maze Game and saying "epic sister fail!" afterwards. Keep in mind that the episode aired in mid-2018.
  16. In 2019, they did this video called "West Wing Story", which was a very bad attempt at mocking Donald Trump and is obviously another attempt to stay relevant, even though the show was already relevant.
  17. Some of the episodes have plot holes and continuity errors that retcon previous seasons such as, for example, “That '90s Show”, where it’s revealed that Homer and Marge were young back in the 1990s, were dating and didn't have kids back then, despite the fact that they were young and were dating in the 1970s, got married in the '80s, and Bart and Lisa were born in the '80s, as well as the fact that this show came out before the '90s even began. All in an attempt to justify why they didn’t age in the current seasons as an example.
  18. "Treehouse of Horror XXII" is the weakest of the Treehouse of Horror episodes. Though there are some good and bad jokes, it's one of the more mediocre three-segment episodes of the series due to the first segment relying solely on toilet humor (for context, Homer was paralyzed and could only communicate by farting) and the third segment relying on dated pop-culture references to movies like Avatar (the episode was released two years after the movie stopped being relevant).
  19. The series is no longer dubbed in Japanese since Season 15. The movie was lucky to be dubbed, but the rest of the series - both pre-movie and post movie - are left broadcasting with the original English version with Japanese subtitles added whenever the characters are speaking. Even when they aren't, the subtitles are added in anyway, which is a real shame because The Simpsons was broadcast in Japan since the '90s.
  20. Most of the Latin Spanish dubbing cast went on strike after Season 14 and were replaced (with the exception of Bart, whose voice actress, Marina Huerta, returned after leaving in 1999 due to salary disputes; she was also cast as Marge, along with Jorge Ornelas as Moe, Gonzalo Curiel as Kent Brockman until his 2020 death, and Carl). The replacement voice actors have not managed to live up to the original cast, mainly due to the local jokes, expression,s and words being eliminated.
  21. Starting in the second half of Season 20, the series received a new intro due to the switch to HD. While decent, it really isn't as good as the intros from Season 1 and Seasons 2-20a because of the animation (for example, rather than Marge looking concerned before giving a sigh of relief upon seeing Maggie in the shopping bag, the new intro simply has her turn her head without much emotion) and cramming in too many gags (such as Homer being sent flying through the door by Marge's car rather than him running away from it). Some sequences (such as the aforementioned shopping scene) were animated using Adobe Flash, explaining the stiff and lifeless animation.
  22. In 2020, the crew decided to not have white voice actors voice non-white characters, which was done mainly because of the protests of George Floyd. This comes off as pandering to SJWs.
    • While most of the new voice actors do a fine job with their work, Alex Désert, the new voice actor of Carl, sounds like he's trying way too hard to imitate Hank Azaria.
  23. The loss of composer Alf Clausen in 2017 and his replacement with Bleeding Fingers Music robbed the music of its beautiful character.

Good Qualities

  1. The soundtrack was still great until composer Alf Clausen was fired in 2017.
  2. There are still decent or even great episodes, such as:
    • "Behind the Laughter"
    • "Trilogy of Error"
    • "How I Spent My Strummer Vacation"
    • "Sleeping with the Enemy"
    • "Hungry, Hungry Homer"
    • "I Am Furious (Yellow)"
    • "Halloween of Horror"
    • "Jaws Wired Shut"
    • "Fland Canyon"
    • "Brick Like Me"
    • "Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts"
    • "HOMR"
    • "Worst Episode Ever"
    • "Old Yeller-Belly"
    • "Barthood"
    • "Holidays of Future Passed"
    • "Once Upon a Time in Springfield"
    • The "Treehouse of Horror" episodes (except Treehouse of Horror XXII)
    • "Gone Boy"
    • "The Way of the Dog"
    • "Thanksgiving of Horror"
    • "Skinner's Sense of Snow"
    • "Warring Priests (Parts 1 and 2)"
    • "Undercover Burns"
    • "Sex, Pies and Idiot Scrapes"
    • "Moe Baby Blues"
    • "I, Carumbus"
    • "Flander's Ladder" (depending on your view)
    • "Baby You Can't Drive My Car"
    • "24 Minutes"
    • "The Hateful Eight-Year-Olds"
    • "Simpsorama"
    • "Beyond Blunderdome"
    • "Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind"
    • ”Woo-hoo Dunnit?”
    • “Steal This Episode”
    • "The Dad-Feelings Limited"
    • "Podcast News"
    • "Bart the Bad Guy"
    • "Diary Queen" (Although, also depending on your view. Due to the reuse of Marcia Wallace Lines and how ending feels a bit rushed)
  3. Like every other cartoon, The Simpsons still mixes up its source material, such as by Flanders and Homer become bounty hunters in "Sex, Pies and Idiot Scrapes". Or Skinner and Chalmers go on a road trip in "The Road To Cincinati".
  4. There are jokes that are still funny, like Ralph Wiggum's "Ralphisms" and Bart prank-calling Moe.
  5. Some of the characters are still memorable and likable, such as:
    • Barney Gumble
    • Moe Szyslak
    • Krusty the Clown
    • Lenny Leonard and Carl Carlson
    • Groundskeeper Willie
    • Superintendent Chalmers
    • Mr. Burns
    • Waylon Smithers
    • Professor Frink
    • Hans Moleman
    • Maggie Simpson
    • Ralph Wiggum
  6. Seasons 11-20a have smoother animation. While it's more restricted in Season 20b onwards, the lighting, textures, coloring and character designs are nice to look at and are a step up from previous seasons.
  7. The new HD intro from Season 20b onwards includes references to earlier seasons and a new billboard gag, along with some recurring gags such as Lisa's instrument (examples include the violin, trumpet, tuba, even vocalizing in one episode).
  8. The show is still good at making songs of their own like "Everybody Hates Ned Flanders" from "Dude, Where's My Ranch?" and "They'll Never Stop the Simpsons" from "Gump Roast".
  9. Even if the pop-culture references and product placements tend to get overused in some cases, at least they are still fun to point out rather than getting jammed down people's throats.
  10. The couch gags are still fun, creative and hilarious to watch. Some of them even have guest animators like the couch gags by Banksy, Bill Plympton and Don Hertzfeldt, as well as the crossover couch gag with Rick and Morty.
  11. The main voice cast has not changed, and the acting is mostly good.
  12. The writing is still decent, depending on the episode.
  13. It still pays tribute to deceased cast members, crew members and past guest stars.
  14. Season 32 is somewhat of an improvement with the animation update, the writing becoming slightly more clever and more well received episodes (one episode was even written by David X. Cohen, who had last written an episode in 1998, and Nell Scovell, who wrote "One Fish, Two fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish" in 1990 and was the creator of the late 90's "Sabrina The Teenage Witch"). However, it still isn't as good as the first ten seasons.

Reception

Ever since Season 11, the series has received mixed-to-negative reviews from critics and fans alike.

Videos

Trivia

  • Voice actor Harry Shearer stated in interviews that he was well aware of the show's decline and admitted that he only stayed because of the paycheck.
  • Russi Taylor, voice actress of Martin, Terri, and Sherri died from colorectal cancer on July 26, 2019. Grey DeLisle Griffin stated that she will be the new voice actress of Martin, Terri, and Sherri starting by Season 31 after Russi died.

Comments


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KalloFox34

20 months ago
Score 10
I do still like the newer seasons, I simply prefer the older ones.
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SaveCartoonNetwork!

19 months ago
Score -14
Fox has already renewed it for thirty-first and thirty-second seasons. They haven't cared about Family Guy or The Simpsons for a long time. They don't care about the declining quality of either shows or that they've been letting them run for infinity and beyond. Both shows have been really bad since seasons seven and eleven, respectively. Oh, I think I referenced Toy Story and 7-Eleven!
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KalloFox34

19 months ago
Score 6
@SaveCartoonNetwork Remember that it's an opinion.
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Rockman138

18 months ago
Score 6
Well, these seasons are nowhere as bad as the tenth season of FOP.
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SquidwardTentacles

14 months ago
Score 4
It still has charm unlike The Show With The Dead Dog (Family Guy).
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S012891

11 months ago
Score 2
I thought that this is unwatchable compared to Family Guy.
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ACoolBlaze5

10 months ago
Score 1
Me too
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S012891

8 months ago
Score 2
I was afraid I might gain controversy from saying this comment but it looks like someone actually agrees with me.
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S012891

5 months ago
Score 0
Not to mention there are a couple of episodes that I pretty much despise in The Simpsons.
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Mbad3

9 months ago
Score 4
I disagree, I don't think the show's gone downhill at all! I think it's actually gone uphill, gotten better!
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Whoever downvoted your comment couldn't handle an opinion
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Stephenfisher2001

8 months ago
Score 4

Let me guess.

The Simpsons (Season 11 - present) is a classic and guilty pleasure?
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Mr. Dready

8 months ago
Score 2
I've Actually Enjoyed, The Mook, The Chef, The Wife and Her Homer from Season 18, and i've really liked Metallica's cameo in that episode.
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Mr. Dready

7 months ago
Score 0
Although it wasn't as funny as Ramones's Cameo in Rosebud.
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Ogleguy2000

7 months ago
Score 1

My Simpsons eras: S1-8 (Golden era) S9-10 (Decent era) S11-12 (Trash era)

S13-Present (Average era)
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I have no idea

5 months ago
Score 3
Agreed. I still find The Simpsons good, just not as it used to.
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Blader07

5 months ago
Score -2
To be honest, The Simpsons (along with Family Guy) should be end
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ItMeansNothing

4 months ago
Score 9
To me, The Simpsons was funny until after the movie, and even then, it's still techincally funny, just not as good.
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Rockman138

4 months ago
Score 1
Well, at least to me, the Post-Movie Simpsons run isn't as bad as how bad The Fairly OddParents became when Season 10 came around.
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Blader07

4 months ago
Score 0
Also Family Guy, Rockman138. I don't watched too much this show, but still.
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I have no idea

3 months ago
Score 3

My version:

Seasons 1-8: Great

Seasons 9-18: Good

Seasons 19-20a: Ok

Seasons 20b-present: Mediocore
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Noahsusername

3 months ago
Score 0
WIS #15 Made me laugh, what the hell
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I have no idea 2.0

2 months ago
Score 4
To be honest, Seasons 11-20a were still good, it went down hill after Season 20b after the animation changed.
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Blubabluba9990

one month ago
Score 0
I think we should rename this Seasons 1-8 as there are quite a few pages on here from Seasons 9 and 10, and The Prinicipal and the Pauper is a part of Season 9, and many fans consider that episode the beginning of the decline.
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KalloFox34

one month ago
Score 2
Seasons 9 and 10 are more divisive than outright hated, and still contain several beloved classics like "Lisa's Sax", "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson", "Lisa Gets an A", "The Cartridge Family", "Natural Born Kissers", and "Mayored to the Mob".
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JigglypuffGuy04

one month ago
Score 1
I don't agree, Season 9 and Season 10 are still apart of the golden age in my opinion. It's only a few fans who believe that only the first 8 seasons are great and the rest suck, the popular opinion is that the first 10 seasons including season 9 and season 10 is the "golden era" for the show.
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JigglypuffGuy04

one month ago
Score 1
I'm gonna be honest, I still love The Simpsons. I am aware of it's flaws, I am aware some bad episodes, I am aware about it's decline, but I'll still love this show no matter what, even if it is not as good as it was when it first started.
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Kaiolauro06

one month ago
Score 1
I have the same opinion of you.
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DearMaster6

one month ago
Score 0
I don't like Alex Désert of Spider-Man Disney XD fame voicing Carl Carlson, I like the Hank Azaria voicing Carl better than him.
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Ivan97Miraheze

one month ago
Score 0
I think Phil LaMarr should've voiced Carl Carlson, to be honest.
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Trevor807

one month ago
Score 0
Or better yet, the showrunners shouldn't have catered to SJWs in the first place.
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DearMaster6

one month ago
Score 0
Might be that Phil LaMarr or one actor from a Disney show will even voice Dr. Hibbert.
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Ivan97Miraheze

6 days ago
Score 0
Well, Kevin Michael Richardson (the voice of Gantu from Lilo & Stitch, among other roles) was recently confirmed as Dr. Hibbert's new voice actor.
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SpongeBobFan99

one month ago
Score 0
We should move the episodes to HTSEW
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Blubabluba9990

one month ago
Score 0
Well it's gonna be gone soon anyway.
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DearMaster6

one month ago
Score 1
There was a plothole were Marvin Monroe is alive in the episode "Diatribe of a Mad Housewife", however, he was dead as confirmed during on the episode "The Simpsons 138th episode spectacular" and his tombstone is shown in "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily". He was later shown on "Treehouse of Horror XXV" and "Flanders' Ladder" as a ghost spirit.
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AgentLocke

one month ago
Score 1

I like how The Simpsons likes to rip on Family Guy for ripping them off When They did the same

in Season 31 or 32 Homer makes a youtube channel about what annoys him
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KalloFox34

20 days ago
Score 1

The Simpsons has been recycling jokes from Family Guy since the latter was a thing.

"Homer the Moe" has a scene where Homer punches a jukebox and his hand starts bleeding. This exact joke was made a year earlier in the Family Guy episode "Let's Go to the Hop".
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DearMaster6

15 days ago
Score 0
Well, this show still have many animation errors (for examples: on "Papa's Got a Brand New Badge", there is a cut corner in the bottom of the shot were Edna met The Fonz; on "Treehouse of Horror XIV" during on the opening sequence, Homer's legs cuts off on the bottom when he hits Bart and Lisa with a bat before he gets shot by Marge; and on "The Heartbroke Kid" during on the parody of the opening sequence scene, Bart is shown overlapping the main entrance of Springfield Elementary School when he skates out of school.)
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I hadn't ever watched this show not even reruns ever since Family Guy came.
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ERightHere

4 days ago
Score 1
At least modern Simpsons is more watchable than modern Family Guy.

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